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	<title>Comments on: Downtown Crossing &#8211; always something going on outside your door</title>
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		<title>By: Jay Levitt</title>
		<link>http://www.bostonreb.com/2008/05/downtown-crossing-always-something-going-on-outside-your-door/comment-page-1/#comment-4738</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Levitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 12:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to remember that 45 Province started around $750K, but that was last year; they may have dropped (or, for that matter, sold out - they had a lot of early sales, even before groundbreaking).

I&#039;d recommend avoiding 3 Avery; see &quot;part of you dies&quot;, above.  You have all the disadvantages of the Ritz, with none of the glitz - and last I heard, your neighbors at 2 Avery were pushing for a separate entrance so they didn&#039;t have to deal with the riff-raff.

I think there are plenty of *opportunities* in DTX - the zoning there is pretty flexible, as I recall - but those would require wanting to develop a building, live in one condo, and sell the other units, and finding someone who&#039;d loan that kinda money right now.  There&#039;s just not a lot of housing there... closer to the Greenway, there were a bunch of small condo projects going on in 2006 that should be done by now.

Did Broadluxe ever get done?  They were going to be more reasonable, weren&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to remember that 45 Province started around $750K, but that was last year; they may have dropped (or, for that matter, sold out &#8211; they had a lot of early sales, even before groundbreaking).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend avoiding 3 Avery; see &#8220;part of you dies&#8221;, above.  You have all the disadvantages of the Ritz, with none of the glitz &#8211; and last I heard, your neighbors at 2 Avery were pushing for a separate entrance so they didn&#8217;t have to deal with the riff-raff.</p>
<p>I think there are plenty of *opportunities* in DTX &#8211; the zoning there is pretty flexible, as I recall &#8211; but those would require wanting to develop a building, live in one condo, and sell the other units, and finding someone who&#8217;d loan that kinda money right now.  There&#8217;s just not a lot of housing there&#8230; closer to the Greenway, there were a bunch of small condo projects going on in 2006 that should be done by now.</p>
<p>Did Broadluxe ever get done?  They were going to be more reasonable, weren&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: John A Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.bostonreb.com/2008/05/downtown-crossing-always-something-going-on-outside-your-door/comment-page-1/#comment-4736</link>
		<dc:creator>John A Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, right now the housing stock down there skews toward the higher-end, but you can find one beds in the $400,000 - $500,000 range at 170 Tremont (Parkside), Tremont on the Common, 55 Temple, and 453 Washington Street.  Also at 3 Avery, which is in the Ritz Towers but are finished less luxuriously than the other two buildings.

There might even be units at 45 Province, I don&#039;t remember what the smaller units are going for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, right now the housing stock down there skews toward the higher-end, but you can find one beds in the $400,000 &#8211; $500,000 range at 170 Tremont (Parkside), Tremont on the Common, 55 Temple, and 453 Washington Street.  Also at 3 Avery, which is in the Ritz Towers but are finished less luxuriously than the other two buildings.</p>
<p>There might even be units at 45 Province, I don&#8217;t remember what the smaller units are going for.</p>
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		<title>By: Osric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I wanted to live in Downtown Crossing since I am one of those urban 35-45 types who would rather walk to the office than drive. But I&#039;m not a Ritz dweller and wanted something in the under-$500k price range. 10 West look like a nice project, then it got sold to Suffolk. Where do people who don&#039;t make seven figures buy in DTX?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I wanted to live in Downtown Crossing since I am one of those urban 35-45 types who would rather walk to the office than drive. But I&#8217;m not a Ritz dweller and wanted something in the under-$500k price range. 10 West look like a nice project, then it got sold to Suffolk. Where do people who don&#8217;t make seven figures buy in DTX?</p>
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		<title>By: John A Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John A Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, call me.  We can list your apt at the Ritz and get you into a sweet suite at 45 Province, special deal, today only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, call me.  We can list your apt at the Ritz and get you into a sweet suite at 45 Province, special deal, today only.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Levitt</title>
		<link>http://www.bostonreb.com/2008/05/downtown-crossing-always-something-going-on-outside-your-door/comment-page-1/#comment-4734</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Levitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ritz *did* fail, it just doesn&#039;t know it yet...

Seriously - there&#039;s a certain part of you that dies when you live there.  I had to get all the way up to Central Square to revive it.

It&#039;s not just no grocery store, but no reliable access to your car; there&#039;s no staging area for the (required) valet, so it can take 5 minutes or 45 minutes to get going, with no way to know.  (They&#039;ll always tell you &quot;right away&quot;, even if you ask for the real wait time.)  And, of course, your neighbors are empty storefronts, and probably always will be; look how they chased away that sushi bar.  There were rumors in early 2007 of a coffee shop opening on the first floor. A year later, that space is still vacant too.  Add that to the Emerson and Suffolk construction, and the vacant Kensington Place, not to mention your self-important neighbors (&quot;Don&#039;t you know who I am?&quot;), and constant rock-star tour buses in front of the hotel, and it&#039;s just not a pleasant environment.

45 Province has remarkable views above the 18th floor (almost half the building); John, have you seen the &quot;simulated view&quot; in the sales office?  There are a bunch of ~1400SF condos on the south tip of the building that have windows on three sides and one or two balconies.  As for the neighborhood, it&#039;s a totally different feeling than the Ritz, even though it&#039;s just blocks away.  There&#039;s a lot more life at the north end of Washington Street; after the financial district closes for the evening, Faneuil Hall starts to pick up.  There&#039;s lots of pedestrian traffic.  Yeah, I&#039;d live there, except maybe for the valet parking again (which Abbey claims they&#039;ve designed to an 8-minute max wait).

Are they really targeting suburban transplants?  I went to one of their sales parties, back when I had delusions of living there, and a surprising number of buyers were in their 30s. Or, at least, a surprising number of buyers who went to a sales party.  I guess that may be the distinction.

PS - John:  &quot;That&#039;s true.&quot;  I think you just nodded in agreement with yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ritz *did* fail, it just doesn&#8217;t know it yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Seriously &#8211; there&#8217;s a certain part of you that dies when you live there.  I had to get all the way up to Central Square to revive it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just no grocery store, but no reliable access to your car; there&#8217;s no staging area for the (required) valet, so it can take 5 minutes or 45 minutes to get going, with no way to know.  (They&#8217;ll always tell you &#8220;right away&#8221;, even if you ask for the real wait time.)  And, of course, your neighbors are empty storefronts, and probably always will be; look how they chased away that sushi bar.  There were rumors in early 2007 of a coffee shop opening on the first floor. A year later, that space is still vacant too.  Add that to the Emerson and Suffolk construction, and the vacant Kensington Place, not to mention your self-important neighbors (&#8220;Don&#8217;t you know who I am?&#8221;), and constant rock-star tour buses in front of the hotel, and it&#8217;s just not a pleasant environment.</p>
<p>45 Province has remarkable views above the 18th floor (almost half the building); John, have you seen the &#8220;simulated view&#8221; in the sales office?  There are a bunch of ~1400SF condos on the south tip of the building that have windows on three sides and one or two balconies.  As for the neighborhood, it&#8217;s a totally different feeling than the Ritz, even though it&#8217;s just blocks away.  There&#8217;s a lot more life at the north end of Washington Street; after the financial district closes for the evening, Faneuil Hall starts to pick up.  There&#8217;s lots of pedestrian traffic.  Yeah, I&#8217;d live there, except maybe for the valet parking again (which Abbey claims they&#8217;ve designed to an 8-minute max wait).</p>
<p>Are they really targeting suburban transplants?  I went to one of their sales parties, back when I had delusions of living there, and a surprising number of buyers were in their 30s. Or, at least, a surprising number of buyers who went to a sales party.  I guess that may be the distinction.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; John:  &#8220;That&#8217;s true.&#8221;  I think you just nodded in agreement with yourself.</p>
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